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(I restore. Yes, citation is a change of sense. The sense of citation is citation, not “indentation”. Semantics matter. Accessibility too.)
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<div style="float:right; padding:0 1em;">{{navbar|Blockquote paragraphs|plain=y}}</div>
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<div style="float: right; padding: 0 1em;">{{navbar|Blockquote paragraphs|plain=y}}</div>
 
Due to the utterly intractable [[MediaWiki]] bug reported at {{bugzilla|6200}}, and still unfixed {{as of|February 2012|lc=y}}, block quoting on Wikipedia, with or without a template, cannot handle freeform linebreaking for paragraphs and poems and the like, unless formatted one very specific (and annoying) way. It's not a problem of blockquote templates, but all uses of {{tag|blockquote|open}}.
 
Due to the utterly intractable [[MediaWiki]] bug reported at {{bugzilla|6200}}, and still unfixed {{as of|February 2012|lc=y}}, block quoting on Wikipedia, with or without a template, cannot handle freeform linebreaking for paragraphs and poems and the like, unless formatted one very specific (and annoying) way. It's not a problem of blockquote templates, but all uses of {{tag|blockquote|open}}.
  
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The intuitive choice:
 
The intuitive choice:
  
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<blockquote><code><nowiki>{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1<br />
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<blockquote><code><nowiki>{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1 <br />
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Line 2<br />
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Line 2 <br />
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Line 3<br />
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Line 3 <br />
 
Line 4}}</code></blockquote>
 
Line 4}}</code></blockquote>
  
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Blank lines seem to work at first:
 
Blank lines seem to work at first:
  
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<blockquote><code><nowiki>{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1<br />
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<blockquote><code><nowiki>{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1 <br />
 
<br />
 
<br />
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Line 2<br />
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Line 2 <br />
 
<br />
 
<br />
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Line 3<br />
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Line 3 <br />
 
<br />
 
<br />
 
Line 4}}</code></blockquote>
 
Line 4}}</code></blockquote>
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Line 4}}
 
Line 4}}
  
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Yet this markup fails with wiki ":" indentation:
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Yet this markup fails with wiki ":" citation:
  
 
:{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1
 
:{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1
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Just trying to use {{tag|p}} or {{tag|br|single}} markup won't solve all the problems:
 
Just trying to use {{tag|p}} or {{tag|br|single}} markup won't solve all the problems:
  
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<blockquote><code><nowiki>{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1&lt;br/><br />
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<blockquote><code><nowiki>{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1 &lt;br/><br />
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Line 2&lt;br/><br />
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Line 2 &lt;br/><br />
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Line 3&lt;br/><br />
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Line 3 &lt;br/><br />
 
Line 4}}</code></blockquote>
 
Line 4}}</code></blockquote>
  
 
results in odd spacing, with the middle blocks too close together:
 
results in odd spacing, with the middle blocks too close together:
  
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{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1<br />
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{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1 <br />
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Line 2<br />
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Line 2 <br />
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Line 3<br />
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Line 3 <br />
 
Line 4}}
 
Line 4}}
  
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Meanwhile this version seems okay at first:
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Meanwhile this version seems OK at first:
  
 
<blockquote><code><nowiki>{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|&lt;p>Line 1&lt;/p><br />
 
<blockquote><code><nowiki>{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|&lt;p>Line 1&lt;/p><br />
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<p>Line 4</p>}}
 
<p>Line 4</p>}}
  
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but again can't be indented:
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but again can't be indented in citation:
  
 
:{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|<p>Line 1</p>
 
:{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|<p>Line 1</p>
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{{As of|February 2012}}, the {{em|only}} solution for the problem is to use {{em|unbroken markup}} with {{tag|p}} or {{tag|br|single}} elements (or others, like nested blockquotes and lists):
 
{{As of|February 2012}}, the {{em|only}} solution for the problem is to use {{em|unbroken markup}} with {{tag|p}} or {{tag|br|single}} elements (or others, like nested blockquotes and lists):
  
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:{{tnull|<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1&lt;br/>Line 2&lt;br/>Line 3&lt;br/>Line 4.}}
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:{{tnull|<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1 &lt;br/>Line 2 &lt;br/>Line 3 &lt;br/>Line 4.}}
  
 
which, while hard to read, especially for long content, results in the expected:
 
which, while hard to read, especially for long content, results in the expected:
  
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{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1<br />Line 2<br />Line 3<br />Line 4.}}
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{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1 <br />Line 2 <br />Line 3 <br />Line 4.}}
  
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And it {{em|does}} work with wikimarkup ":" indentation, unlike the failed test cases above:
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And it {{em|does}} work with wikimarkup ":" citation, unlike the failed test cases hereinbefore:
  
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:{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1<br />Line 2<br />Line 3<br />Line 4.}}
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:{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|Line 1 <br />Line 2 <br />Line 3 <br />Line 4.}}
  
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Happily, there is an HTML-comment workaround for readability that lets you do whatever you want:
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Happily, there is a [[HTML]] comment workaround for readability that lets you do whatever you want:
  
 
<blockquote><code><nowiki>
 
<blockquote><code><nowiki>
 
{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|1=&lt;!--<br />
 
{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|1=&lt;!--<br />
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-->Line 1&lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
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-->Line 1 &lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
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-->Line 2&lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
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-->Line 2 &lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
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-->Line 3&lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
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-->Line 3 &lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
 
-->Line 4.}}
 
-->Line 4.}}
 
</code></blockquote>
 
</code></blockquote>
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{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|1=&lt;!--<br />
 
{{</nowiki><includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|1=&lt;!--<br />
 
<br />
 
<br />
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-->Line 1&lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
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-->Line 1 &lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
 
<br />
 
<br />
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-->Line 2&lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
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-->Line 2 &lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
 
<br />
 
<br />
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-->Line 3&lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
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-->Line 3 &lt;br/>&lt;!--<br />
 
<br />
 
<br />
 
-->Line 4.}}
 
-->Line 4.}}
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{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|1=<!--
 
{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|1=<!--
  
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-->Line 1<br /><!--
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-->Line 1 <br /><!--
  
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-->Line 2<br /><!--
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-->Line 2 <br /><!--
  
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-->Line 3<br /><!--
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-->Line 3 <br /><!--
  
 
-->Line 4.}}
 
-->Line 4.}}
  
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They {{em|are}} indentable:
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They {{em|are}} citable:
  
 
:{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|1=<!--
 
:{{<includeonly>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</includeonly><noinclude>bq</noinclude>|1=<!--
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-->Line 1<br /><!--
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-->Line 1 <br /><!--
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-->Line 2<br /><!--
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-->Line 2 <br /><!--
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-->Line 3<br /><!--
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-->Line 3 <br /><!--
 
-->Line 4.}}<noinclude>
 
-->Line 4.}}<noinclude>
  
 
{{Documentation}}
 
{{Documentation}}
  
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<!-- Categories and interwikis go on the /doc subpage. -->
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<!-- Categories and interwikis links go on the /doc subpage. -->
  
 
</noinclude>
 
</noinclude>

Revision as of 18:46, 10 April 2013

Template:navbar

Due to the utterly intractable MediaWiki bug reported at Template:bugzilla, and still unfixed Template:as of, block quoting on Wikipedia, with or without a template, cannot handle freeform linebreaking for paragraphs and poems and the like, unless formatted one very specific (and annoying) way. It's not a problem of blockquote templates, but all uses of Template:tag.

Template:collapse top

The intuitive choice:

{{bq|Line 1

Line 2
Line 3

Line 4}}

results in the mangled:

Template:bq

Blank lines seem to work at first:

{{bq|Line 1


Line 2

Line 3

Line 4}}

though with quite tall spacing between the content blocks (lines, in our test cases):

Template:bq

Yet this markup fails with wiki ":" citation:

Template:bq

Just trying to use Template:tag or Template:tag markup won't solve all the problems:

{{bq|Line 1 <br/>

Line 2 <br/>
Line 3 <br/>

Line 4}}

results in odd spacing, with the middle blocks too close together:

Template:bq

Meanwhile this version seems OK at first:

{{bq|<p>Line 1</p>

<p>Line 2</p>
<p>Line 3</p>

<p>Line 4</p>}}

Template:bq

but again can't be indented in citation:

Template:bq

Template:collapse bottom

Template:As of, the Template:em solution for the problem is to use Template:em with Template:tag or Template:tag elements (or others, like nested blockquotes and lists):

Template:tnull

which, while hard to read, especially for long content, results in the expected:

Template:bq

And it Template:em work with wikimarkup ":" citation, unlike the failed test cases hereinbefore:

Template:bq

Happily, there is a HTML comment workaround for readability that lets you do whatever you want:

{{bq|1=<!--

-->Line 1 <br/><!--
-->Line 2 <br/><!--
-->Line 3 <br/><!--
-->Line 4.}}

or even:

{{bq|1=<!--


-->Line 1 <br/><!--

-->Line 2 <br/><!--

-->Line 3 <br/><!--

-->Line 4.}}

which results in the expected:

Template:bq

They Template:em citable:

Template:bq

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